aren'tor you going and he bypasd chicago. he's in chicago where the murder rate now is higher than any other major city in america. it's more than double from, say, 20, 25 years ago, the rate, bob. and the actual number, 508 last year. on pace to break that number this year. all the while, there is a hand gun ban in the city of chicago. not a concealed carry ban. a hand gun ban. you're not allowed to carry a hand gun in the city of chicago. the most strict gun control laws aren't helping the murder rate go down. so you apply that across they country, doesn't make any sense to apply those rule. >> first of all, if anybody felt that the camera moved up and down just as you -- andrea threw her bag behind, her purse. >> it was left on set. >> let me just say that one thing you want to keep in mind, al capone's day, there were 26 murders. now there is 44. chicago was a fifth of the size as it is now.t that might have something to do with it. this is a gang war.